PETER DIAMANDIS: So you and I have had a disagreement on longevity.

ELON MUSK: A little bit. Yeah.

PETER DIAMANDIS: I was saying, you know, we should push to get people to 120, 150. And you were saying people, you know, die, shouldn’t live that long.

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ELON MUSK: Yeah, I actually think it is better to be an optimist and wrong than a pessimist and right. For quality of life, by the way.

DAVE BLUNDIN: It’s also not a force of nature. It’s under—like to me it’s really clear that we don’t have any system right now to make this go well. But AI is a critical part of making it go well. And at some point Grok is going to be addressing this exact topic that we’re talking about or has to be one of the big four AI machines. I mean it’s coming, dealing with it.

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ELON MUSK: Like, oh, no, it’s wrong. Yes, correct. Yeah. I mean, based on current trends, China will far exceed the rest of the world in AI compute.

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ELON MUSK: Yeah, well, one side recommendation I have is like, don’t worry about squirreling money away for retirement. In like 10 or 20 years it won’t matter.

DAVE BLUNDIN: Okay.

PETER DIAMANDIS: Either we’re not going to be here.

ELON MUSK: Or it just like you won’t need to save for retirement. If any of the things that we’ve said are true, saving for retirement will be irrelevant.

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DAVE BLUNDIN: The way this unfolds is fundamentally impossible to predict because of self improvement of the AI and the accelerating timeline.

ELON MUSK: Yeah, it’s called singularity for a reason.

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ELON MUSK: 2030, we exceed like I’m confident by 2030 AI will exceed the intelligence of all humans combined.

DAVE BLUNDIN: That’s way pessimistic. If you hit AGI next year and that data is in flux, but from that date to self improvements that are on the order of a thousand, 10,000x, just algorithmic improvements is very short.

PETER DIAMANDIS: And so why isn’t everybody talking about this right now?

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ELON MUSK: I mean, there are three things that I think are important. Truth, curiosity, and beauty. And if AI cares about those three things, it will care about us.

PETER DIAMANDIS: On which part?

ELON MUSK: Truth will prevent AI from going insane. Curiosity, I think, will foster any form of sentience, meaning like, we are more interesting than a bunch of rocks. So if it has. If it’s curious, then I think it will foster humanity. And if it has a sense of beauty, it will be a great future. I think that’s a great foundation. Yeah.

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PETER DIAMANDIS: They, based upon the profitability of all the companies coming inside, just issue people free money. No, they’re doing that sort of kind of now.

ELON MUSK: Yeah, but just basically issue checks to everybody. And then how big for which person or…

DAVE BLUNDIN: There’s so much complexity there. But the thought process behind this rate of change can only be done with AI assistance. And there’s no government entity that’s going to keep up with that change. So you have four big AIs.

ELON MUSK: Not the AIs. It’s like government is very slow moving, as we all know. So I think the government really can’t react to the AI. It’s AIs moving 10 times faster than government, maybe more.

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ELON MUSK: I mean, several years ago I said humans are the biological bootloader for digital super intelligence.

PETER DIAMANDIS: Yes. We are a transitional—we are a transitional species.

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